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shared responsibility, we're all in this together society, you should vote for barack obama and joe biden. >> you electrified the place and they all say why do we have this 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton just run again and be president for the next 30 years. >> well, we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president, and you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked i think well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a third time, but when he died shortly after being elected to a fourth term and people didn't really know a full measure of his health challenges, the 22nd amendment passed. it's ironic that the 22nd amendment passed at a time when people thought the democrats had a lock on the white house and then it was, then after in the last 50 years, the republicans had it more than the democrats, but i think there's still an argument for saying that eight years, certainly eight years in a row is enough. you don't want to run the risk of sclerosisdemocratic society. you want to keep the blood running. you don't want to give
shared responsibility, we're all in this together society, you should vote for barack obama and joe biden. >> you electrified the place and they all say why do we have this 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton just run again and be president for the next 30 years. >> well, we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president, and you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked i think well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a...
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shared responsibility, we're all in this together society, you should vote for barack obama and joe biden. >> you electrified the place and they all say why do we have this 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton just run again and be president for the next 30 years. >> well, we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president, and you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked i think well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a third time, but when he died shortly after ingurer peoe dn' hisenge hhe n t pass. it's ironhat the22nd amendmt paed at me when ople thoht the democrats haa lo then i was,n after in the last 50 years, the repuanshad oo thillf ei s,year eightears i a rows o ró,eros tse dictators that have been deposed in theastew years ad t weoung dd t sothing go, andy just kind of outstayed their wel. so i love the life i have now. i like helping the president. i like helping my country. mteut ied in tics like what i'm doing. i think on balance, the system we have is better than the no limits. maybe some day, the rules will b
shared responsibility, we're all in this together society, you should vote for barack obama and joe biden. >> you electrified the place and they all say why do we have this 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton just run again and be president for the next 30 years. >> well, we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president, and you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked i think well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a...
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i want your reaction, joe biden, commenting anywhere we've come versus where we've been. >> they act like somehow in settlement of 2008, all of a sudden then recession fell from the sky and bang. wow. how did this happen? how did this happen? as my number three granddaughter would say, pop, did kasper the friendly ghost do it? how? >> what do you think? >> listen, i mean, it's all politics, he has to go out and pitch to the american people their policies are what saved economy when -- >> that is another humorous attempt to say look what we inherited. >> lea like saying what is the - you know blaming bush, over. i tell you this. it will come down to numbers, and who is best suited to move this economy forward, you know in my opinion, not just being from wall street, middle class has not moved forward, people think because the markets are up, they are doing better. but they are not. looking at reagan, he inherited a recession, unemployment 10.2%, in 37 months he gave the jobs back, created additional million, and with that same we're down 4 million jobs, what does that tell you, all hi
i want your reaction, joe biden, commenting anywhere we've come versus where we've been. >> they act like somehow in settlement of 2008, all of a sudden then recession fell from the sky and bang. wow. how did this happen? how did this happen? as my number three granddaughter would say, pop, did kasper the friendly ghost do it? how? >> what do you think? >> listen, i mean, it's all politics, he has to go out and pitch to the american people their policies are what saved economy...
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it seems like joe biden is a familiar fige 60 years ago. barack obama, of course, has an exotic name, an african name. he's not an unusual fellow. heeems lika person you wou hang out with, play go wit thesaren str onie leonets moomn, regular -- someone you would have met 100 years ago. are the democratic party, the new age that they scare people? i just don't see that myself. maybe i'm part of that reality. i don't see them as strange at all. >> chris, it goes back to the propaganda factor. it's not just that rush and fox and those guys say something, it's that we say the other thing. if we say that barack obama isn't a muslim, that must not true because we're the liberal media, we're the mainstream media, and nothing we can say -- we say can be trusted. >> i have called an anti-posture for years. just saying no to everything. thank you, guys. i thk you nailed it. it'ssychological. anyway, howard fineman and joe klein, thank you. coming up, could baracobambe thmo'salg? yeaydr sullivan. he has a chance to transform american politics. the fir
it seems like joe biden is a familiar fige 60 years ago. barack obama, of course, has an exotic name, an african name. he's not an unusual fellow. heeems lika person you wou hang out with, play go wit thesaren str onie leonets moomn, regular -- someone you would have met 100 years ago. are the democratic party, the new age that they scare people? i just don't see that myself. maybe i'm part of that reality. i don't see them as strange at all. >> chris, it goes back to the propaganda...
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it's going to be so weird. >> to be fair, i think joe biden ran ads in delaware in 2008. >> did he? >> i think he did. so you can do this and you're absolutely right. >> let me do the math on that. that w the yr for him. go ahead. yais setting himself up to be -- ryan is setting himself up here to be what he has always wanted to be win or lose. so the election doe't determine ryan's fate. if romney loses, there's going be a huge chorus for the republican party saying it was just that guy's fault. it's not our ideas, it's not -- >> whose fault? >> mitt romney's fault. >> that's what i think. john, you're ready for the nation, not a right win ger, but they won't say that ryan has too much weight on the ticket. they will sayt didn't hav enghdeiceigh >> i think you're right about that but i also think that paul ryan is worried about that issue. and, you know, paul ryan is a very ambitious political player. he's a nice guy,ard worker, i think much more disciplined than mitt romney. rng and does pushups.0nhe it's pretty amazing. >> and hundreds of them. while watch you rage against the ma
it's going to be so weird. >> to be fair, i think joe biden ran ads in delaware in 2008. >> did he? >> i think he did. so you can do this and you're absolutely right. >> let me do the math on that. that w the yr for him. go ahead. yais setting himself up to be -- ryan is setting himself up here to be what he has always wanted to be win or lose. so the election doe't determine ryan's fate. if romney loses, there's going be a huge chorus for the republican party saying it...
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romney's had a lot of practice and i remember in 2008 the sarah palin/joe biden debate. because there was the katie couric interview, the fact that she was able to hold her own was a victory at all. >> i think to some extent it factors in only as much as it drives the news coverage after the fact. even though debates are watched by many millions of americans a lot of what they understand about the debate is not only a factor of their own predispositions but a function of the way that the news coverage of it. if there's better coverage, i think that's probably going to send a more positive signal to the voters to be persuaded by this. >> maybe it didn't win or lose an election can create a lasting impression. i think of 2000 when al gore sighed his way through that debate. it really sort of added to the idea we already had of him as petulent, condescending, unlikable. that was an idea that carried through the rest of the election. >> in fact, that first debate in which gore behaved that way is actually one where we can see two to three-point swing after the fact. >> wow,
romney's had a lot of practice and i remember in 2008 the sarah palin/joe biden debate. because there was the katie couric interview, the fact that she was able to hold her own was a victory at all. >> i think to some extent it factors in only as much as it drives the news coverage after the fact. even though debates are watched by many millions of americans a lot of what they understand about the debate is not only a factor of their own predispositions but a function of the way that the...
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. >> barack obama and joe biden are rated higher than mitt romney and paul ryan. a little bit of the buyers. we are looking across conditions. next slide, please. we asked them to rate the evaluation of the stimuli. we asked them how accurate, how and credible -- it's a little higher on accurate and informative and credible. the black is little higher on engaging but a lot higher on entertaining. if you go back to our original slide we note the effectiveness of these two types of fact-checking are comparable. so what is the final take way, identifying and debunking the sets of claims in political ads people think is much more entertaining. thank you. [applause] >> high. i'm jeff peters from the "columbia journalism review." i want to tell a story about my mother. my mother works at her church in illinois. she still has a flip phone. she doesn't have facebook. her computer is always mysteriously broken. my mom reach the "chicago tribune" every morning. she listens to news reader as she is driving to and from work. she watches the 10:00 news sometimes issue still aw
. >> barack obama and joe biden are rated higher than mitt romney and paul ryan. a little bit of the buyers. we are looking across conditions. next slide, please. we asked them to rate the evaluation of the stimuli. we asked them how accurate, how and credible -- it's a little higher on accurate and informative and credible. the black is little higher on engaging but a lot higher on entertaining. if you go back to our original slide we note the effectiveness of these two types of...
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it's going to be so weird. >> i think to be fair, i think joe biden ran ads in delaware in 2008. >> did he? >> i think he did. so you can do this. but you're absolutely right, and -- >> let me do the math on that. 72. go ahead. >> ryaisti - >> n-- >> -- up to be -- >> he was up, mike? >> i think he was. >> and ryan is setting himself up here to be whate always wanted to be, win or lose. so the election doesn't determine ryan's fa. if romney loses, there going toe a hughof puican party saying, it was just that guy's fault. >> whose fault? >> mitt romney's fault. >> that's what i think. john, you write for "the nation," you're not a right-winger, but don't you have a sense they'll say, that's the ey s h didtav enough ideological weight to win. >> i think you're right about that, but i also think that paul ryan is worried about that issue. and, you know, paul ryan is a very ambitious politic player. 's a nice guy. hard worker, very disciplined. i think much more disciplined than mitt romney. >> he's up at 4the rninanes-u i ow, it's pretty amazing. >> and hundreds of them, man, while listen
it's going to be so weird. >> i think to be fair, i think joe biden ran ads in delaware in 2008. >> did he? >> i think he did. so you can do this. but you're absolutely right, and -- >> let me do the math on that. 72. go ahead. >> ryaisti - >> n-- >> -- up to be -- >> he was up, mike? >> i think he was. >> and ryan is setting himself up here to be whate always wanted to be, win or lose. so the election doesn't determine ryan's fa. if...
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but if saying something dumb disqualified you, joe biden couldn't be vice president. >> senator mccaskill, are missouri voters willing to forgive todd akin for saying e e fferent degrees of saying something dumb? >> well, let me just say this. i don't think the problem is what todd said. the problem is what todd believes. that is really thessen of th race. what are his believes. and his belief s, i believe, honestly his beliefs would be painful for missourian families. the families in missouri that in be better next year gs are than they were last year. families that are working hard and playing by the rules and want to be treated fairly in every way in their lives. and this is, todd akin is somebody who, you know, gave a speech that the hate crime legislation was going to create hatred. and those kinds of views are what i think is really the problem here. nowhat he said, t wh he ev >> senator i've addressed this on this show before. i think a lot of voters who vote in solid blue states like new york, when they see democratic senators gathering in washington, they wonder why they don't al
but if saying something dumb disqualified you, joe biden couldn't be vice president. >> senator mccaskill, are missouri voters willing to forgive todd akin for saying e e fferent degrees of saying something dumb? >> well, let me just say this. i don't think the problem is what todd said. the problem is what todd believes. that is really thessen of th race. what are his believes. and his belief s, i believe, honestly his beliefs would be painful for missourian families. the families...
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in fact, i'd say considering joe biden does most of his attacking with a smile, that makes harry reid his more vicious attack dog. he can go after romney on anything. seems to be personal with him. >> greta: is he effective as the senate majority leader? any of you. >> well, i think republicans will be quick to say they've gone how many months out passing a budget. they've punted on a number of issues. if you're asking republicans, no. harry reid is the king of gridlock. he's been single-handedly -- he and the president have been responsible for government grinding to a halt. i think democrats would argue that he's a fighter. he's their fighter. he's a former professional boxer in their corner all along. >> that's right. you have to remember that he's also sort of a de facto leader of democrats in congress. what he's doing is fighting for his party. he's fighting and trying to make the republicans look as bad as possible. to that end he's been somewhat successful. >> greta: i would feel somewhat ashamed. i go back to the anonymity issue when he said he had a secret source that said th
in fact, i'd say considering joe biden does most of his attacking with a smile, that makes harry reid his more vicious attack dog. he can go after romney on anything. seems to be personal with him. >> greta: is he effective as the senate majority leader? any of you. >> well, i think republicans will be quick to say they've gone how many months out passing a budget. they've punted on a number of issues. if you're asking republicans, no. harry reid is the king of gridlock. he's been...
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vice president biden as we reported recently is living in ohio now. and then after those polls came out, a romney advisor told "buzzfeed" that romney's internal polling they claim is within the margin of error so they're disputing that it's true. >> eliot: took a poll of two people to the margin of error is 50%. they're nowhere close in ohio. >> the polls will close. it is the nature of how elections work. >> eliot: i'm not so sure. seriously in ohio, the manufacturing base is beginning to come back. the economy is coming back and there's one overarching reason for that, the auto bailout. that issue in what we used to refer to as the rust belt has been harmful to romney. mitt romney's handling of that was fundamentally wrong. >> you look at his resume. i talked to -- everything i want he was a businessman, he was a governor. he seems like he would be the best person that could go against obama right now but i don't know what he's going to do. >> eliot: his campaign has turned himself into somebody who is invacuous. he gave those things up five years a
vice president biden as we reported recently is living in ohio now. and then after those polls came out, a romney advisor told "buzzfeed" that romney's internal polling they claim is within the margin of error so they're disputing that it's true. >> eliot: took a poll of two people to the margin of error is 50%. they're nowhere close in ohio. >> the polls will close. it is the nature of how elections work. >> eliot: i'm not so sure. seriously in ohio, the...
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joe biden has been a huge presence in ohio too. joe biden's famous line the reason to reelect the president is because osama bin laden is dead, and the auto industry is alive. >> bill: yeah. not so far away is the state of missouri -- yesterday all of the expect -- from karl rove on down, reince preibus, even mitt romney they are all hoping this is the day that todd akin will step down. and he didn't do it. >> no he didn't todd akin has had the support from the very conservative wing of the republican party. he announced that he would stick with the race. newt gingrich campaigned with him earlier in the week. >> bill: yeah. >> we have seen some of the outside groups starting to spend a little money on akin's behalf which is good. because american cross roads have canceled their ads. this is the most unprecedented act i have ever seen since akin made his comments about," legitimate rape." he hasn't dropped out of the race, he has essentially -- he is singing from a script that claire mccaskill wrote. >> bill: exactly. the story this
joe biden has been a huge presence in ohio too. joe biden's famous line the reason to reelect the president is because osama bin laden is dead, and the auto industry is alive. >> bill: yeah. not so far away is the state of missouri -- yesterday all of the expect -- from karl rove on down, reince preibus, even mitt romney they are all hoping this is the day that todd akin will step down. and he didn't do it. >> no he didn't todd akin has had the support from the very conservative...
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vice-president of candidates on the campaign trail, paul ryan spend a day in colorado, vice-president biden campaign tomorrow and florida. >> to foster work and enterprise in the middle east and other developing countries i will initiate something i will call prosperity pacs, working with the private sector to identify the barriers to investment and trade and entrepreneurship and entrepreneurialism in developing nations. opening the market to u.s. investment and trade, developing nations will receive u.s. assistance package is focused on developing the institutions of liberty, the rule of law, property rights. >> we believe that freedom and self-determination are not unique to one culture. these are not simply american values or western values, they are universal values, and even as there will be huge challenges to come with the transition to democracy, i am convinced that ultimately government of the people, by the people, and for the people is more likely to bring about the stability, prosperity, and individual opportunity that serves as the basis for peace in our world. >> text wednesday
vice-president of candidates on the campaign trail, paul ryan spend a day in colorado, vice-president biden campaign tomorrow and florida. >> to foster work and enterprise in the middle east and other developing countries i will initiate something i will call prosperity pacs, working with the private sector to identify the barriers to investment and trade and entrepreneurship and entrepreneurialism in developing nations. opening the market to u.s. investment and trade, developing nations...
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vice-president biden has one son that is patriotic to our country. host: how about a final thought from you in a broad sense about campaign 2012 that foreign policy would plaly. guest: governor romney is a patriotic american and wants to contribute. i think he is having a problem in the campaign. foreign policy is becoming a bigger issue because of these terrible events in the middle east. both candidates want to sanction china because of the threat of war. i think president obama has the advantage going into the debate. the present's record is very solid -- the president's record is very solid. mitt romney has to develop some well considered ideas -- here's what i would do on the big issues. how we can stop iran from becoming a nuclear weapons power. how do we bring peace to the palestinians? that is a debate we should have. it should not be partisan. i am looking for to the debates. host: nicholas burns, former u.s. ambassador and now teaching at the harvard. thank you for joining us this morning. guest: thank you very much. host: we will take a br
vice-president biden has one son that is patriotic to our country. host: how about a final thought from you in a broad sense about campaign 2012 that foreign policy would plaly. guest: governor romney is a patriotic american and wants to contribute. i think he is having a problem in the campaign. foreign policy is becoming a bigger issue because of these terrible events in the middle east. both candidates want to sanction china because of the threat of war. i think president obama has the...